corrosionjerry

Rona sells a brand that says right on the tube that it is aquarium safe.

I would like to thank the good people that run ACE for the great job they did at the convention and auction etc. ..... Unfortunetly I was unable to attend much of the convention this weekend / commitments that I could not get out of ( Inlaws and work ) I was however able to make it to the auction for a couple of hours... didnt win any of the auctions I was interested in however I did buy the raffle tickets for the wood carving , filter etc.

I was fortunate enough to win the Fluval G3... Thanks again and thanks John for picking it up for me and making arrangements for me to pick it up.

Jerry

I am starting up a planted tank... been a year or so since I tore down my last planted tank...

I just can not remember how many blubles per second or whatever the rule of thumb is that I should be injecting with a powerhead into a 20 gallon long tank.

Thanks in advance

If they are 3 watt cree's and they have the right deflectin lenses , color spectrum and like Iceturf says have a good controller or dimmer they should be fine. Otherwise dont order the fixture. Much depends also on what you want to achieve with your lighting.

What is the name of the maufacturer? When it comes to LED lighting there is a lot of garbage out there so be careful? especially with some of the overseas stuff... If I were you I would stick with AI or Radion unless you are just using the LED lighting for simple lighting needs in a fish only tank.

I am thinking of upgrading one of my SOL's to the Vega Upgrade... it apears if you go to the modular LED website that they can upgrade the SOL with pucks that have White , Blue and Red spectrum leds that can be adjusted to whatever spectrum you want to use... this should be good for planted tanks..

Anyone out there with expierence with this?

That would be normal for Edmonton water

I would get the rock at Canar... I would stay away from that kind of drift wood

It will look awsome once they are all grown out...

The fish look grat Ric...

I see you have a way with the camera as well!

Only my fry eat that stuff when it comes to freshwater fish otherwise some of my saltwater LPS and fish eat it

I clean mine once a week during water changes... squeeze them out in the water removed at water change time

Does she know better! I know what my wife would say about me.......

While not in the same league as others on this forum I have enjoyed breeding a few species of rainbows.

I started with some store-bought lake kutubu (M. Lacustris) rainbow. After some misses I figured some of it out and was successful in raising a few dozen.

Having bred world class dogs for some 25 years, I wanted better quality stock and was able to find Rick and with his help gathered a dozen or so species.

I have bred M. Lacustris, (aquarium strain) M. Machalocci (skull creek) M. Boesmani (aytinyo) M.Parva, M.Preacox (aquarium strain) and Pheudomogul Gertrudia (Aru 2)

At the moment I am enjoying raising a month old spawn of M.Splendida splendida (deep water Creek) which beside the Aytinyo's is a favourite.

My hope is to find an original strain of M. Lacustris so I can perpetuate this “old” but well known fish. If you know of any let me know

John

Great to hear from you John! Maybe a year ago you might have been a little green under the gills :rofl: But in the last six months you have helped me considerably to provide some nice young fish to my customers!

Even though I have cut back on breeding ..... I am still keeping a sharp eye out for some nice M. lacustris!

Warn regards,

Ric

John has the patience of Job... great breeder!

Thought it would never come to this point where people were talking about Rainbows... cant tell you how many M. Boesmani , Reds and M.Preacox and a few

others that just eludes my memory for the moment that I bred before I just stoped because there was no interest. Glad to see a little interest in these guys now!

I think my biggest challenge was finding females for my Boesmani's... the stores would only bring in batches of small colored males, I can remember checking endless weeks at big Als and other locations for females... finally I found a few that had not been culled out of one of big Als tanks and was able to spawn them succesfully after they had matured... was a lot of fun seeing the first few spawns of dozens of very small fry hatch from my mops... so much fun I may have to do it again some time.

Wecome back to the hobby...

I would have a look at the canreef site if your thinking salt tank... Both sites are great

I dont have them anymore but if you spend some time on Reef Central you can find it there.

I do frequent there but haven't come across that specific point. I'll keep my eyes peeled. Not saying you are wrong, just wondering if I'm gonna kill my LEDs.

Had a look at this topic on the IA SOL web site... http://www.aquaillumination.com they state that it is a myth that dimming your led's hurts them... infact it increases their lifespan... there is also an interesting article about output led wattage / a very good read

Jerry, if you read through some the thread I linked to there is a lot of info. I'll give you a bit here though.

My setup has 28 cool white Cree XML running running up to 1500mA (max by specs is 3000mA). My main power, 5000-8300k.

12 royal blue xpg running up to 1000mA. Mostly for the blue colour. In the future I woud use blue but not royal blue.

12 neutral white xpg running up to 1000mA. Mostly for the yellow colour. I forget the exact temp, but around 3000-4500k or so.

I have three custom driver boards by O2Surplus. He frequents plantedtank.net. You need drivers or a way to provide the leds with a constand DC current. You can use buckpucks or quality driver of whatever brand you prefer. You also need a power supply unless the drivers are all in one units. Meanwells, Inventronics and comparible drivers are all in one.

My drivers give me eight independently dimmable strings of LEDs. 4x7 xml and 4x6 xpg. The drivers have analog dimmers if I don't want to use a controller, or I can have full dimmability and control with the two controllers I have in the mail.

I bought my LEDs, most essential parts and the heatsinks from LEDgroupbuy.com. I've never used Martin's stuff but it is just a less DIY way of DIY. Martin's are more just click them together. I had to hand build my fixture and it was painstaking. You can also use thermal epoxy or drilled heatsinks to make things easier.

I went pretty all out on my fixture and it probably cost me about $1500 total. It does more than any reef light though.

Thanks for the info... apreciated

You should also consider using CO2 to help grow your plants. You can either buy bottle stuff or a DIY method you might find on the internet. This is what was always suggested to be as opposed to using artificial light. It is still good to use though but as you said if you use too much it'll cause harm to your coral.

Huh? He didn't even ask about co2, so how do we know he isn't using it anyway? The bottle stuff isn't co2. Co2 is co2. The bottled stuff - metricide or excel is a carbon source the plants can use but it isn't even close to the same. Diy works for small tanks but on a 6 footer it would be hell to have enough bottles going. How do you use co2 without artificial light? Darkness plus co2 equal dead plants. You could try sunlight but good luck balancing that beast.

I had LED lighting for one of my freshwater planted tanks and was unimpressed with growth. The general consensus is that the technology for freshwater LED lighting hasn't caught up with the LED lighting for saltwater.

Who's general consensus? I know many people using LED light that like and don't like it. It works fine if you like the look, etc. The technology is the same (save for colour) so I'm not sure what you mean by that? Just sayin'.

Is there anyone here with expierence with this stuff..... can a person put together the DIY cool white cree's that can be driven to 3 watts with drivers. With the drivers they would be running at 6000-8000K / perfect range for plants.

Yes you can. I did it, but went way overboard. http://www.plantedta...fixture-up.html

Thanks for your thoughts.... Not sure where the co2 thing came about ... yes I run co2 injection for the person that made that comment...

Great led setup Jcjd... are those all cool white crees? with drivers? 72inch tank? Did you purchase the DIY from Martin? I purchased my AI SOL's setup from him and am considering the DIY setup... you dont happen to have or know where I can get a schematic of the setup. I did see the links on his site however they are no the clearest as far as instruction goes.

Thanks in advance

Is there anyone here with expierence with this stuff..... can a person put together the DIY cool white cree's that can be driven to 3 watts with drivers. With the drivers they would be running at 6000-8000K / perfect range for plants.

I am considering purchasing some LED lighting for a planted tank... 72 gallon 4 foot.... this is what was suggested by a company that I contacted ... would you guys agree with what this company is suggesting for LED requirment... so little info on FW planted LED requirment

Here is the link to this type of LED lighting for the different choices this company offers.... http://www.saltwateraquarium.com/ecoxotic-panorama-pro-led-module-12-19-watt-8000k-freshwater.html

Thank you so much for contacting Ecoxotic and showing interest in our LED products. For a tank of this size, we would recommend:

4 x 8,000K Panorama Pro LED Modules

1 x 12K White/Magenta Stunner LED strip

This would provide plenty of light for strong plant growth as well as provide excellent color rendition.

On another unrelated note :

I recently purchased LED lighting for my Saltwater coral tank... went with 2 AI SOL's.... unbelievable lighting / I have to turn it down to about 45% output or it would literaly bleach out my corals top to bottom....

i truly am now a believer in LED lighting after my AI SOL purchase.........

Did anyone here breed any of these from those brought in a year or so ago... I would be interested in a pair if they turned out decent... also would be interested in a pair of Blacks if available....

When is the meeting in Jan. ?

Go to sil silica in edmonton and get #8... it doesnt get gassed up like playsand and its a lot cheaper .... you can get black substrate at a few of the LFS stores however you will pay an arm and a leg for it.... I wouldnt buy any of the colored play sands

I have found that calcium is very important to have sucess with SPS... lighting is important however a good calcium reactor or Kalkwasser stirrer really make a big difference and of course lots of water current or turnover...