Andrew

Thanks for all the posts, I am going to start my fishless cycling on my 80gallon tonight!

no i see the logic behind it an i suppose it has its pros and cons, just i wanted to use that part of the site right now lol

You could always try kijiji. There are usually some great deals on there when people are moving.

I to have a some in a community tank with swordtails, loaches, and gouramis and no issues at all.