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Just like I said, if ya need help I can help ya!

Quinn

Thanks Quinn, I figure with you and your friend we will have plenty of man

power to get the job done!!!!! I went to the warehouse to see the tanks today...

"OHHHH YAAAAA", looking good so far but until they are in place and later do a leak

test...I won't get my hopes up....well maybe just a bit!!! :thumbs:

I'll p.m. later with all the details.....Thanks

I hope it all works out! I'm just as excited as you are probably lol.

Quinn I P.M. you today...if you received it call me...thanks

Geez whiz those are massive! What do you have going in them? Whales?

Jeff

Yes you could say that, they are the newest thing called "Cichla whales"

you have to get some!!!!!!!!!LOL

I could help.......if ya want a 13 year old tagging along

thanks, but I think we will have plenty of guys already!!!!

Just like I said, if ya need help I can help ya!

Quinn

Thanks Quinn, I figure with you and your friend we will have plenty of man

power to get the job done!!!!! I went to the warehouse to see the tanks today...

"OHHHH YAAAAA", looking good so far but until they are in place and later do a leak

test...I won't get my hopes up....well maybe just a bit!!! :thumbs:

I'll p.m. later with all the details.....Thanks

Hey everyone, my tanks have finally arrived after 6 months....

I ordered them from "iadempet.com"(aquarium designs unlimited) here in Edmonton..

We did take our time with the design and overflows and holes, etc.....

For those who don't remember;

tank # 1; 120in x 48 in x30inches high

tank # 2; 120in x 42 in x30inches high

I guess Santa was right on time.....LOL

Now the work starts...I have to get them down 6 stairs(straight).

It should not be to bad...I have 6 industrial suction cups....

the tanks will be carried sideways(30in) and the staircase is 48in wide....

Anyway the move will take place on the 27th or the 28th...

The hard part is organizing the man power......

I think 10 people should be good and so far I have 7, maybe 8....

I am supplying pizza and beer and the people that are going to carry the tanks

will be paid a small fee!!!!! the others can place 2 x 4s, open door, direct, etc..

the large tank is between 600 and 700 pounds, so about 110 pounds per person...

the tanks are acrylic.....

I will have a showing to those interested at a later date but for now if anyone is

feeling strong then please p.m. me......Thanks

Yes picks will come soon>>>>> To all a Merry Christmass!!!!!!!!! :thumbs:

By the way I am in the west end about 3 miles from W.E.M.

and we do need women to serve the beer, LOL

I'm joking.. strong woman are very welcomed.....cheers......

so what are they saying???? does it remove amonia with Edmonton hard water or not?????

Just thought I'd share some pictures of this rare fish. Picked up 4 of them at the Edmonton auction.

I don't know a whole lot about them, but from what I've read online with similar species from the area, I may have to make a separate tank for them and run a cold cycle for 3 months at 60 degrees.

I also picked up some GYMNOGEOPHAGUS PASO PACHE which really are too small to care about photographing right now.l

they are OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!!

how big do they get??? Aggressive?????

hey Ryan, sad about your loss.... how many were in that tank? what size of tank?

what size were the fish when you got them and when they got bloat?

how many other species were in there? Was there alot of fighting between

them or between other species? What type of food? How much per day?

Any info. you could give me would be great!!! Maybe one day one of us

can figure out this problem!!!!!!!!!!! thanks

I got 6 Haitiensis in a 120 gallon (4x2x2)

The fish were anywhere from 1.5 - 2" when I got them, they bloated the biggest one was a little over 3" smallest one being a little over 2.

Only other thing in the tank was 3 Honduran red points, and 2 clown loaches. No fighting at all, everyone ignored eachother, only fighting was within the Hait's

Feeding them New Life Spectrum TherA pelets, and Spirulina twice a day.

Temp was 86 consistantly, and I did between a 30-50% waterchange every 3 days.

After doing what I did i thought theres no way that they will bloat up for me lol. Anyways, hope my experience helped and let me know how yours do when you get them

hey Ryan, sad about your loss.... how many were in that tank? what size of tank?

what size were the fish when you got them and when they got bloat?

how many other species were in there? Was there alot of fighting between

them or between other species? What type of food? How much per day?

Any info. you could give me would be great!!! Maybe one day one of us

can figure out this problem!!!!!!!!!!! thanks

I got 6 Haitiensis in a 120 gallon (4x2x2)

The fish were anywhere from 1.5 - 2" when I got them, they bloated the biggest one was a little over 3" smallest one being a little over 2.

Only other thing in the tank was 3 Honduran red points, and 2 clown loaches. No fighting at all, everyone ignored eachother, only fighting was within the Hait's

Feeding them New Life Spectrum TherA pelets, and Spirulina twice a day.

Temp was 86 consistantly, and I did between a 30-50% waterchange every 3 days.

After doing what I did i thought theres no way that they will bloat up for me lol. Anyways, hope my experience helped and let me know how yours do when you get them

Ditto, doing everything perfect and they still die.

I'm thinking of getting one just for a tank in crappy condition, and then it will probably live lol.

Didn't you use Metronidazole on them when they started bloating up too?

hey guys......I did some more research and found another thing to consider...

have you ever eaten a pizza late at night and then gone to bed???????

ya, I know I have....how do you feel in the morning??????

anyway, word has it that late night feeding,,,,then the lights go out......

the fishes metabolisim slows down causing food to start rotting in their gut..

then the bad parasites come to life.....then the white feces....

I am just a messenger but what time of day do people feed their fish before

the lights go out??????????????????

KEEP HUNTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

could be nothing but we will leave no rock unturned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL...........

Wow a tank that size must be amazing to own... all the possibilities... have you ever kept any species of cichla???

no I have not.......tell me more about their personality.............

So what are the dimensions of this tank going to be? Hopefully not too deep, you will need scuba gear just to do anything in it lol. IME with really deep tanks, I absolutely hate them. Especially when trying to remove rocks, or trying to move them around. I have some I have to climb a 6 foot ladder just to get into to do maintenance on them. What a pain.........but I still wish I could have a tank that size

the tank is 10ft x 4ft x 30inches high..........I know what you mean about high tanks!!!!

I used to have a 6ft x 2ft x 3ft high tank and it was a real pain to clean or move rocks...

I used to have a six foot ladder and still had to stick my entire shoulder into the tank...

What a pain......

This tank is 30 inches high instead of 36 inches and that should make a big difference.....

thanks

I have some questions I would like to ask those who know about tank weight and floor weight capacity.

I just bought a gorilla rack from costco today, in the hopes of setting it up in the same room I already have my 2 90 gallon tanks. Both 90's I currently have are on the outside load bearing wall about 2 feet apart from one another. I was planning on setting the rack up on the wall opposite of the tanks, which I believe isn't a load bearing wall. I was inquiring about a 75 gallon tank to go on the gorilla rack, but might go with another 90 instead. I was also planning on putting a couple 10 gallon tanks, and a couple 20 gallon tanks on the same rack.

The house is about 30 years old, the rack will be sitting so that the floor joists will be perpendicular to it. And the room is approximately 10-12 feet long (sorry, couldn't find my tape measure). I live upstairs as well (if you haven't figured it out by now). My question and would be, is this possibly going to be a problem? I am just worried with the weight of all the tanks in the same room will cause the floor to collapse, and really don't want my fish and tanks to end up in the basement lol. Can anyone tell me from a floor expert perspective if this will be possible, or whether I shouldn't risk it? Thanks

You should not have a problem. It is VERY IMPORTANT not to use a stand with feet.

You need a stand where the feet are actually horizontal on the floor and across

as many joists as possible........Not the common 4 pointy feet type....

I had my temp up to 86 , fed them food with garlic in it, had lots of hiding spots, seemed like they were doing great then all of a sudden one day one got it. then after that just about every day others got it. Theres only 2 left now and quinn has both of them. Hope you have better luck than me, they look sweet when adults

hey Ryan, sad about your loss.... how many were in that tank? what size of tank?

what size were the fish when you got them and when they got bloat?

how many other species were in there? Was there alot of fighting between

them or between other species? What type of food? How much per day?

Any info. you could give me would be great!!! Maybe one day one of us

can figure out this problem!!!!!!!!!!! thanks

A think a fully mature Festae would be fine.

The Haits I would worry about bloat though....I would invest in a UV sterilizer haha.

Yes the dreadfull BLOAT issue.......I am raising the heat to 82f or 84f while the fish

are small,also a U.V. sterilizer,also many caves of different sizes,also many water

changes & lastly I will keep a few in a small solo tank as spares...just in case...

One thing I won't be able to do is a low protein diet due to the others in the tank

but I will not feed them until their bellies burst either!!!!!

I think that festae wouldnt hold up too well against a Haitiensis to be honest. I voted Hait, Mang, Umbie

You might be right but in a tank this big anything is possible......also they will

grow up together & a Festae is no wimp!!!!!!

750 gallon!!!!!! Now thats a fish tank, where do you get a tank of that size? How in the h#ll do you move it? A pic of this is a must when its set up, here I was happy with my 230 gallon! Guess I need a new one now!

The tanks are acrylic and are made in Los Vegas(I think)...

You can order them though a branch of theirs called "Living Color"...

here in Edmonton.......

How do we move it????? Good question!!!!!

Six guys & six industrial suction cups..... and HOPE everything goes well!!!!!!

I have pic's of this project from the begining and will post all once the tanks are in place..

(Very Soon!!!!).............thanks

Grow them up together, try out the ones that have never been done before.

I say Mang, Umbee, and Hait.

That's an interesting idea but I have never grown a Festae to full potential

so this is my big chance........Also, Festae will add more color to the set up..

thanks

My tanks are arriving this month(finally).

In my 750 gal tank I want three large breeding pairs that I will raise from juvies..

I have taken into consideration; Color, Size, Aggression, etc....

What do you think???

I know I may still need dividers in the future....

I hope your being sarcastic about a larger sump???

Actuallty I estimated wrong and it's about 36 gallons. 44"x12"x16".

My dad had planned to use that for his 485 gallon, wouldn't it be enough for a 150 or 180?

DEF...a larger sump!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No joke!!!

Soooooooooo, I know all about the bloat problems..

When I get mine I was going to put the majority in the large tank(750gal)(all young cichlids of different species) and a few

in some isolation tanks, also I will keep the heat up, say 80 to 82, water changes!!,

and a U.V. sterilizer, also not over feed.......any other suggestions??????

Until 4in then I hope I'm out in the clear.........

Thanks everyone.....I thought about 15 or 16inches but now I am sure........

Hi there... Does anyone know what the max. size these fish grow to???

Thanks

SOunds like quite the fish list, im totally interested in seeing this now lol

Hey Quinn, I P.M. you at MFK and I'm not sure how to P.M. on this site..

I live in the west end in Edmonton...if you want to see the tanks

when they arrive let me know..I would appreciate other opinions

on the rest of the set up....

Could always use another person to help carry the tanks into the house....LOL....

Excellent looking!!!!!! I'm not a big hybrid fan but those are two

of my favorite fish..... What is his temperment lke!!!!!!

Thanks guys.....

I'm excited about them but a little worried too....they are big....

My original plan was to try and bred red aro's but that is a big investment

due to the price of aro's and how many I would need, also breeding them

is very difficult in captivity......

I have always been a big cichlid fan, so for now I will start with that...

My list;

FESTAE, ODO, UMBIE, MIDAS, LABIATUS, BI-FACIATUS, RED MOTO,

CARPINTE, CUBAN, AND GREEN TERRORS.....(These fish will be split up

between both tanks).

I will have Synspilum, Chocolates and Blue Dempseys in another tank.

A 240 gallon that I will purchase next year.

I'm sure there will be issues with them breeding, but as you can see I won't

be overstocking the tanks and dividers might be needed in the future...I hope

not thou.....

I will keep you posted..

Also I was thinking of getting most of my fish from Jeff Rappes (Tangled up in cichlids)........

Later....

Hi everyone.... I was planning to get one or two large tanks about two years ago

and I finally ordered them from "Tenecor" aquariums...

I had to finish the basement first to fit these tanks....that's done..

The tanks are acrylic and will be here in 6 to 8 weeks...I'll post pic"s then!!!

The footprints are:

Tank#1: 120inches x 48inches x 30inches high......700gal US (I think)

Tank#2: 120inches x 42inches x 30inches high......600gal US (I think)

I will be housing large cichlids for now....

I am having a lot of holes drilled in them for two types of filtration systems

and automatic water changes........

Now the fun part should start, plumbing and electrical...

I'll keep you posted.......