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Yes, that is how lots of ray keepers keep there rays.

There is a good one on GARF.org

I place orders about every 3 to 4 months direct from the wholesalers in South America so these fish are all wild caughts. Let me know what you are interested in and I can advise availability and price. My next order will be likely be the 1st week or so of March and it will be coming out of Brazil.

whats the chances of you being able to get ahold of electric blue dempseys? I can't believe how helpful people are on this site it's great! thanks again for all the help.

As far as I know EBJD are not wild caught they are a domestic strain.

I really don't understand why so many people are all about 'start small and see how you like keeping a small tank for a while'. If someone has the money/means to get a large tank and start that way, it's MUCH easier than screwing around with little tanks. A larger tank means a larger volume of water, which gives a lot more room for error as far as water quality goes - small tanks can swing 180 degrees overnight if something goes seriously wrong.

I'd argue that a properly filtered 100+ gallon tank with a couple large cichlids would be much easier to keep than a 10 gallon full of guppies, tetras, barbs etc. How many beginners do you know who buy small tanks like this, and end up at the LFS every weekend picking out a few new fish because they lost a couple in the last week, and even though they have no clue why, they're out buying more?

My advice to anyone getting into the hobby from scratch - buy the largest tank you can afford, RESEARCH the fish you want to keep, and if you feel you can reasonably maintain said fish, go for it. If your dream is to have a big tank with a graceful arowana gliding through it (because you saw one at Smitty's ) how is keeping a 10 gallon full of guppies going to feel anything like that and keep you interested?

Small tanks can be a PITA to maintain IMO, and I'd be willing to bet that more of the '10 gallon starter kits' end up turning people OFF the hobby than onto the hobby. Just ask yourself why nano's are becoming so popular among EXPERIENCED aquarists? - It's because it takes more skill to maintain the water and fish in smaller body of water than a larger one.

Well said. :thumbs:

Depends on what you are looking for, Natures Corner is by far the best, Big Als has had some nice stuff in the past, super Family pets in the Park has a decent selection but it goes quick when it comes in. Other then that not many other places around town that carry more then the "basics".

Well said hybrid.

There's absolutely no reason why anyone with a large enough system can't keep an aro, whether they are new to the hobby, or not. Spend some time doing research, and make sure that when advice is given it's by someone that actually knows what they are talking about. (such as what temp an aro should be kept at) 78F that was suggested to you in another thread was poor advice. We have a new sponsor here on the forum (Shine Aquatics) that can answer most if not all arowana related questions.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

Every care sheet I have seen for any arowana says mis 70's to mid 80's so it seem the both are right.

I have not had an arowana yet, but I do want to get a black and will be keeping my tank at the same temp as I keep my SA tank right now, 79f.

The short answer is the bigger the better, the longer answer would be minimum 72"x36"x24" or about 250 gallons. For filtration I would recoment a sump system with a volume of around 80 gallons, I would pack it with some form of bio media, most likely pot scrubers. You can build a bio tower in to the sump all you need is something to hold the media and a way for the water to drip through it.

Look around the DIY section of this site, monster fish keepers, and reef central, you will see good filter builds.

I hope this helps you out, I dont want you to run away from the hobby because it seems too over whelming, good luck with your fishy future.

Be safe go exchange it.

Wow, I guess they sacrifice a few for the good of the many. I will have to keep an eye out for the follow up study.

Not sure where to post this but there is a guy in Calgary trying to sell a very nice leo as a Black Diamond. Watch out if anyone is in the market.

Aren't they one in the same? Potamotrygon Leopoldi = leo = black diamond

http://stingraysource.com/

Wow now I have lots of reading to do, I think I might just end up doing alot of DIY LED lights, I have lots of tanks that I want to use them on. Most of my tanks wont be planted so I wont need lots of light.

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You can look here, look at the rena 400. you will need something like this.

You can look here, he sells lots of good pumps and air driven filters.

Hmmm I was hoping that the prices would have come down from when I first saw them 3 or 4 years ago. Dose any one know a good place to get LED lights for a planted tank?

I am looking for some infor on the LED lighting systems I cant seem to find them at all any where, dose any one know what happened to them?

Wow you have great collection going on there, very inspiring.

Thanks guys for the comments.

The new build will be roughly a 12' x 8' x 40" plywood tank with an acrylic front. The inside is done now and all that is left is the mechanical and filling it with water. The rest should be done over the holidays.

You should post some pics of you build in the DIY section I would love to see a build that big.

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Spencer Jack has them for this weeks order...Who wants in??<details<

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I wish I could, nice fish, but $15 for an otto :boxed:

If you vacuum seal them you can buy in bulk and make smaller bags that will increase you over all shelf life. Also vacuum packing will incease shelf life because of the lack of O2 in the bag.

Of course something good comes to Ontario and I will be leaving the last week or April, lol. :boxed: Maybe I will get posted to Trenton so I can go.

Dinner, wine and sweet talk,even, I'd get into an FX5,especially if it has heated leather seats,lol. What, that isn't a car??

I can make the side of my F150 say FX5 if you want :rofl:

I don't think that you get a heater in to an FX5, I think the pressures might be too high. I have seen people do it before with smaller canisters you just drill a small hole in the top and use some good aquarium safe epoxy to seal around the cord, you have to cut the cord and get some heat shrink tube to put it back together.

As long as you fish can swim with out any trouble then your ok. I didnt think that you can over filter but you can over power.

Wow it sure is taking them a long time to get these things out to the stores.

It would help if we knew what you are looking at using one for. For a muti tank system they are great but for just about anything else they are a waist of money.

My parents have had a hard plastic pond shell for about 5 years now, it is out side every winter and has never cracked.