cichlidkid Posted January 22, 2005 Report Share Posted January 22, 2005 Ok I thought about it. the thing is I am getting two, 3 foot by 8 foot pannals for free. they are 10 mill. what is the largest tank that I could make if I use a 3"metal frame all the way arround the tank and a plywood/3mm plexi bottom. if it is possible to get a tank longer than 6 feet I would be willing to buy 2 end panals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker69 Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 With 10 mil/ 3/8" glass, I do not think that you can go over 24" tall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishManTy Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 I would never go over 5x2x2' with 10mm glass. I believe my 150 has 12mm glass, and that still makes me nervous. Damn rocks! But yeah, the bigger it is, the more it costs, the more the liability, the larger the risk, the harder to maintain. Plus, its gotta be able to be transported. I'd stick with a 60x24x24"... I'd be too affraid of a blow out, caused by an airbubble in the silicone. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidkid Posted January 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 keep in mind FishManTy that it will have a 3 inch metal frame all the way arround thanks for the advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidkid Posted January 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 ok garf says this would be fine for a glass tank WITHOUT a 3 inch metal frame so im pretty sure this will be alright. 7 feet long by 30" wide and 24" tall. I mean think about it. you use way thinner glass on a plywood tank and since there is 3 inchs of support on all sides that is pretty much like most plywood tanks. and garf said that that would be ok for an all glass tank. im gonna be reall carfull about choices of tank design. no tall, tippy, heavy rocks, lots of driftwood, fake plants and low lying caves and pots. filteration will be 2 or 1 aq500's and a wet/dry filter doing 1200 gph using a skimmerless overflow. heating will be a 100w visitherm and a 250w ebo. located in the sump occupants will be a festae pair, salvini, convict and some t-barbs. there will be 3 compartments in the 55 or 75 gallon sump. 1 for plants, 1 for a fry/quarunteen tank (with bypass tubes to be used if it is a Q tank) tank. and the last compartment for the return pump. I will be using an extra powerfull return pump so I can create an ugj system from the return. As for the tank itself the frame will be whater kind of meal I can get. it will have 1 iron cross beams for support on the bottom and 2 on the top. it will also have glass supports on the top too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted January 23, 2005 Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 NOPE, you are totaly wrong. ck. Not a safe project! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker69 Posted January 24, 2005 Report Share Posted January 24, 2005 According to the glass calculator that I found somewhere on the net, 7' X 24" X 3/8" glass will work, with a saftey factor of 3.2. If you want to check it out, let me know and I can e-mail it to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidkid Posted January 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 yea I know I have looked arround everyone and everything except smokey (not to say he is wrong, just safe) says that it would be safe and fine. actualy the tank itself will be 28 inches tall, but that includes the 3 inch metal bracer. There will only be 22" of glass actualy showing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker69 Posted January 26, 2005 Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 With the top frame being just flat iron, I would definately recommend a center brace in the top center to help prevent bowing, aka GARF plywood design. Also, with the metal frame, do not use it for saltwater, as you probably know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidkid Posted January 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 o yes sorry I forgot to add that to the computer diagram. (i have a million others laying arround my house. I was going to put a L frame allong the top like this. Understand? And I was going to have 2 cross bars allong the top, each 2 feet from the end __ __ ll l -with this being the new L beam l l l l excuse the 2 extra l's they where the only way to get it perfecty alligned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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