easyrider Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Yesterday I noticed my lionfish and niger trigger were both very sick. Both have whats looks like a patchy white velvet on the skin and glazed over eyes. As of today i noticed some of the lion's fins are rotting as well (overnight). Also over the last week I have noticed the trigger laying on his side on the live rock. Also another point of interest... noticed a thick skim of what looks like protein on the top all of a sudden. This is the first time in a 2 year old tank that this has happened. I do 30% water changes once a month and do not run a skimmer. I started a treatment with Pimafix today cause I do not want to treat with copper. Both fish look very bad any help would be great. Thanx HB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medicdude Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 What is your water chemistry like? PH, Ammonia, Nitrates, etc.? What kind of filtratio are you running? Do you have anything breaking the surface of the water? Yesterday I noticed my lionfish and niger trigger were both very sick. Both have whats looks like a patchy white velvet on the skin and glazed over eyes. As of today i noticed some of the lion's fins are rotting as well (overnight). Also over the last week I have noticed the trigger laying on his side on the live rock.Also another point of interest... noticed a thick skim of what looks like protein on the top all of a sudden. This is the first time in a 2 year old tank that this has happened. I do 30% water changes once a month and do not run a skimmer. I started a treatment with Pimafix today cause I do not want to treat with copper. Both fish look very bad any help would be great. Thanx HB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert_dao Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Do you use live feeders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midgetwaiter Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Even if you don't use live feeders so you use anything like krill that the trigger rips up really bad? Sounds like a pH crash almost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyrider Posted March 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 I run two hob's with a sponge filter. I do not use feeders. I will check my parameters tonight and post. My lion looks much worse today don't know if he will make it -05- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyrider Posted March 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 f*#k! I think i have to euthinize the lionfish. His fins are really rotted and he looks like he can barely swim . looks like he is suffering. I am tottaly lost to what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midgetwaiter Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 f*#k! I think i have to euthinize the lionfish. His fins are really rotted and he looks like he can barely swim . looks like he is suffering. I am tottaly lost to what happened. Don't get too far ahead of yourself, what did your water tests turn out like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyrider Posted March 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 (edited) nitrate, nitrite and ammonia are all normal. ph is at around 8.0. Also another note.. my inverts (crabs) seem to be doing fine. Edited March 15, 2006 by easyrider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midgetwaiter Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 (edited) Okay then. Either you need to setup a hospital tank (A rubbermaid tub will be just fine) for the fish or risk killing your inverts. You need to drasically lower the salinity until you get to a specific gravity of 1.010. The best way to do it is setup a tub or something with water pre mixed at that salinity and move them over in a bag. Add a couple cups of the new water to the bag every 20 minutes for 2 hours or so then let them go in the tub. Whatever is causing this, that should slow it down. Can you get a picture of it and post? Also, does the trigger look fine aside from the somewaht strange behavior (triggers are wierd)? Is there any fin damage or discoloration on him? If not, consider the possibilty that the trigger is doing the dammage to lionfish. This is a common issue. Edited March 15, 2006 by midgetwaiter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAlberta Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 I hope you are able to bring your fish back to health. It would be a shame to loose em! Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyrider Posted March 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Update..... the lionfish is bellyup. The speed of his demise is mind blowing. this all took place in 2 days ( the visual part anyway). The trigger still has signs of it but seems to be doing alot better than the lion did. The lion fish basically rotted right in front of me. I am not able to post pics.I am completely stumped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easyrider Posted March 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2006 Well, the trigger finally bit the dust. I don't know what to do to try and cycle the tank again. It's been along time since I lost some fish. Last time was from a box fish. This time i don't know. another pic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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