RDFISHGUY

No , he's a member of this forum. Common name is sunshine pleco.

This is Boydo's pleco. A very active fish.

Yeah and my lungs will repair themselves, providing I don't already have cancer in them, but that doesn't mean I am going to live as long as if I never smoked. The fact is even if it can regenerate how much of a toll has the damage put on the body. Is it ever the same after? If you think it is safe then feed it to your fish but I would not advise anyone to do so. You don't even know if the condition can be reversed in fish. Remember they can't assimilate mammal protein the same way we can. Once the damage is done it may not be undone. I keep fish that can live a long time and I'd like to keep it that way.

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Pin method.

No, I am saying it can be reversed in humans. This then poses the question, "Does mamallion meat leave an irreversable fatty liver build up because it cannot be assimilated properly or will it heal itself when the fatty foods are taken away?" IF it does heal itself then you could feed it to younger fish to get them to grow quicker as Hustler suggested. I think you would have to get a group of test subjects and feed them the beefheart a certain amount of time and then cut them off and examine one specimen per month until either: A) all of the fish are dead or you no longer see evidence of the disease. You would also need another group of test subjects fed no beefheart to see which group of test subjects live longer. I am certainly not going to be subjecting my fish to that. If anyone wants to give it a whirl go ahead. Based on existing evidence, I will not include beef heart in the diet of any of my fish. I am not a scientist but I would say any stress to the organs for any amount of time would likely cause shorter life. Kind of like smoking. I smoked for 20 years but now that I've quit I don't expect to live as long as I would if I hadn't taken up the habit. :bang1:

Gold's dude.

What do Discus eat? I have examined hundreds of specimens during many years and stomach and gut contents among wild Discus indicate an order of precedence: detritus, then plant material (flowers, fruits, seeds, leaves), algae and micro-algae, aquatic invertebrates and terrestrial and arboreal arthropods. The Amazon has adapted to nature for fishes during millennia of evolution. Plants of the tropical rainforest have little water and cannot flourish during the dry season so cannot waste energy. The same happens to most freshwater fishes. During the dry period, with a much reduced water level and hardly any food source — except for predators — many fish starve or feed on the little available, usually detritus. Discus and many other fishes eat what they can get, but have to be constantly aware of carnivorous predators. During the six to nine months of floods, almost all trees and bushes, flower and have fruits and seeds — which is the main nutrition of roughly 75% of all Amazonian fishes. The adults, and babies which grow to adults in that period, can then fill their stomachs and guts. The carnivorous predators starve as they cannot find their prey in the huge water masses. How much nutrition? I have found the following percentage of nutrition in each one of the three species: •Symphysodon discus during low water: 55% detritus; 15% plant material; 12% algae and micro-algae; 10% aquatic invertebrates; 8% terrestrial and arboreal arthropods. During high water: 28% detritus; 52% plant material; 5% algae and micro-algae; 3% aquatic invertebrates; 12% terrestrial and arboreal arthropods. •Symphysodon aequifasciatus low water: 52% detritus; 18% plant material; 15% algae and micro-algae; 13% aquatic invertebrates; 2% terrestrial and arboreal arthropods. High water: 8% detritus; 62% plant material; 8% algae and micro-algae; 5% aquatic invertebrates; 17% terrestrial and arboreal arthropods. •Symphysodon haraldi low water: 39% detritus; 9% plant material; 25% algae and micro-algae; 22% aquatic invertebrates; 5% terrestrial and arboreal arthropods. High water: 6% detritus; 44% Plant material; 12% algae and micro-algae; 16% aquatic invertebrates; 22% terrestrial and arboreal arthropods Heiko Bleher I also read some other articles that suggest seafood makes a better protein source than beefheart. There is very little meat protein in their diet period. http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/beef-products/3464/2 http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/finfish-and-shellfish-products/4172/2 Although I couldn't find a study specifically about beefheart and discus, from the research I've done I can surmise 3 things: 1. Cold blooded animals cannot easily assimilate warm blooded protein fats. 2. Beef heart is a warm blooded animal protein relatively high in saturated fats. 3. I am dyslexic. I thought your post said discus not discuss. LOL. :drunk: I also read that fatty liver disease can be reversed in humans if the diet is changed. Can it be reversed in fish? If so it could be used when fish are young but prolonged use would likely be fatal.

You see what he's eating Neil? Also eats the 3mm.

Wicked collection but you should really clean the glass dude. Maybe its from drooling over all those cool fish. :drool:

Like Neil says if you give them a lot of frozen foods its difficult to get them to eat pellets. Its like offering a kid a choice between a popsicle and a brussel sprout. The only fish I have that won't eat NLS are my small rays (they are starting to eat it a bit) and my aros who eat SW with vitamins. The aros only get 25 SW/day because they are a pretty fatty source of protein. If I let them eat until satiation they would probably eat 100 or more. Sure I'd have some big, pumped up aros... but for how long? Even the WC plecos I just got are huge fans of the NLS wafers. Even my little distichodus eats the wafers. I started him out on flakes. That lasted about 2 days and he was eating 3mm and wafers.

No beef will ever enter one of my tanks. Not while I'm alive anyway. NLS for these guys. They eat until their bellies are distended.

Growing these guys out to go into my 360 gallon.

Nice leos and tankmates thanks for the update.

Bret has a BD that is absolutely gorgeous. I think it is a female. One look at the group of them and you'd know which one I was talking about. She is just one of those fish that really stand out in the crowd. A lot of this guys big spots have started to split into 2 different spots. I was hoping he'd keep the bigger spots but he stands out in the tank and gives it the wow factor so I am still happy, and lucky, to have him. Its pretty cool to watch them morph as they get bigger. Maybe some of the smaller spots that have split will grow to be big spots. I guess we'll have to wait and see. This guy is a great eater too.

Thanks. Thanks No tanning. Just 6700k colormax. Its from OTF but farms don't matter. Look at the fish. Thanks Wayne. I started to feed them superworms injected with vitamins.

Thanks. The substrate is a mix of heavy and light gravel all the same color. I bought it at Big Als. There are 11 fish in that tank. You'd never know it as the arowana keeps the others pinned in behind the wood. Tankmates currently are 4 dats 4 green phantom plecos and a distichodus sexfasciatus which you can see in the first and third tank shots on the right side if you look really close. I am growing out a couple of giant gouramis and some emporer sharks in my 180 plus the young motoros so it will be full. I may have to get rid of a few as they grow. Thanks. Thanks Wayne. Thanks, I have had a few inquiries on arofanatics asking if he's for sale. He is nice but there are others that are just as nice, or nicer, out there. Most of which are very expensive. :beer: Thanks Bret. Not sure how long they'll last but for now they are nice.

No flex with the 1/2 " with the one-piece top. I'm going to build another one over the holidays. Stay tuned.

Dimensions are 8x3x2 and its 1/2 acrylic.

Nice collection. 600 needs an asian aro. Nice GG and mbuna tank.

Finished the top and took the chains off the lights: