interlude Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 (edited) An Aquaclear 70 or a Cascade 700 in a 33g. Or would you use both? Edited November 23, 2007 by interlude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vallisneria Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 What are you planning on stocking the tank with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interlude Posted November 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 What are you planning on stocking the tank with? dwarf cichlids, school of neon tetras or school of rasboras, my beta and a pleco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JORG Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 My preference on a tank like that would be not to use power filters. I would go with undergravel filters you can still grow plants etc. When I used too keep dwarf cichlids it worked well for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Chicklets Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 I would use either an A/C 50 or 2 sponge filters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vallisneria Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 I have a AC70 and a powerhead attached to a sponge filter in my 40g and it works ok. I would probably add another AC70 if I had one as just the one doesn't seem to create enough water movement and surface movement. If the choice is only between those 2 I would choose the AC70. But you might need to add a powerhead to help with movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parachromis1 Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 definitely the AC 70 with a hydro sponge iv is recommended. Quinn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaggle Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 I would go with the AC 70 any day all my tanks that have power filters have a AC filter of some kind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toirtis Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 Cascade 700 canister all the way....especially if you are going planted with CO2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willfishguy Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 (edited) As much as don't like Hagen products, they are superior to PennPlax. I've used all three of the Cascade lines and both the canister and the HOB went into the garage within a year of use. The canister went into the dumpster 5 weeks after it was purchased. I'll never use them again. The Aquaclear on the other hang is Hagens biggest blunder, in that it works so well, that making models obsolete every 5 years like the Fluval line can't be done, because everyone that has ever used one knows that it really can't be improved on and still maintain the cheap price. So I give :thumbs: for the Aquaclear, I suggest not using it the way Hagen says to use it. Edited November 29, 2007 by Willfishguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toirtis Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 As much as don't like Hagen products, they are superior to PennPlax. You must not have much volume experience with both, then...the Cascades are far better physical quality (over the Fluval '04 and '05 series...the '02 and '03 were actually pretty good) and much easier to use. I am constantly ordering parts for the newer Fluval canisters, particularly handles, impeller covers, impeller shafts and impellers. The Aquaclear on the other hang is Hagens biggest blunder, in that it works so well, that making models obsolete every 5 years like the Fluval line can't be done, because everyone that has ever used one knows that it really can't be improved on and still maintain the cheap price.So I give :thumbs: for the Aquaclear, I suggest not using it the way Hagen says to use it. I like Aquaclears...love them even....but they are generally inferior to canisters for planted tanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BooUrns! Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Cascade 700 canister all the way....especially if you are going planted with CO2. Is there some reason you focus on the 700's? What about the 1500's? I'm looking at moving away from fluval canisters and I've noticed the penn-plax are priced lower than a comparably sized Fluval. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toirtis Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 Is there some reason you focus on the 700's? What about the 1500's? I'm looking at moving away from fluval canisters and I've noticed the penn-plax are priced lower than a comparably sized Fluval. Just because that was one of his two options (Cascade 700 vs. AC70), and it fits his tank size well...I love the Cascade 1000, 1200, and 1500 equally (and wish that they made a Cascade 2000...something rated for 250+ gallons). That being said, I do like the Fluval FX5...its the smaller Fluvals that I do not care for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willfishguy Posted November 29, 2007 Report Share Posted November 29, 2007 As much as don't like Hagen products, they are superior to PennPlax. You must not have much volume experience with both, then...the Cascades are far better physical quality (over the Fluval '04 and '05 series...the '02 and '03 were actually pretty good) and much easier to use. I am constantly ordering parts for the newer Fluval canisters, particularly handles, impeller covers, impeller shafts and impellers. The Aquaclear on the other hang is Hagens biggest blunder, in that it works so well, that making models obsolete every 5 years like the Fluval line can't be done, because everyone that has ever used one knows that it really can't be improved on and still maintain the cheap price.So I give :thumbs: for the Aquaclear, I suggest not using it the way Hagen says to use it. I like Aquaclears...love them even....but they are generally inferior to canisters for planted tanks. I have enough experience to know that both Penn Plax and Fluval products suck, regardless of the Fluval series. Infact, I know they suck so bad that I would never sell them or use them for my own fish tanks. As far as canisters go, there are only three readily availible brands that exist in my world and they are neither Penn plax or Fluval. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toirtis Posted December 1, 2007 Report Share Posted December 1, 2007 As far as canisters go, there are only three readily availible brands that exist in my world and they are neither Penn plax or Fluval. Eheim, I am sure, but I am curious as to the other two...surely not Rena? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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