rED O Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 My dad and I were drawing out ideas for a sump. We thought of a new way of a out take for the water. Instead of a cane pipe in the end being sectioned off why not this. Think of a bathtub, the water comes in threw the tap. When the water gets to close to the top, there is a hole under the tap to drain it. So we were thinking of copying that same concept. It would regulate it self. the water flows in and goes out the hole at a constant rate. So drill a hole about 6-8 inchs from the top, make a drain, and a elbow pvc pipe in the hole then a straight pipe into the sump ect. I would just have to but a screen over the the hole so fish would not go in it any thoughts on our idea? all ideas welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Chicklets Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Why so far from the top? Do you want your tank to only fill that high? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rED O Posted April 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Why so far from the top? Do you want your tank to only fill that high? well I could put it any were. ok lets say 2 inchs from the top. what do you think of our idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
African_Fever Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 I'm not really sure what's so different about your idea? A hole drilled in the side of the tank at the level that you want your water? That's a pretty common method of drilling a glass tank when you don't know if the bottom is tempered or not - if you drill a hole on the side you can then have a 90 elbow IN the tank as well, with the top of the elbow used to control the height of the water rather than the placement of the hole on the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rED O Posted April 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 I liked this idea because I dont have to section off a part of the tank losing gallons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2manytanks Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 My dad and I were drawing out ideas for a sump. We thought of a new way of a out take for the water. Instead of a cane pipe in the end being sectioned off why not this.Think of a bathtub, the water comes in threw the tap. When the water gets to close to the top, there is a hole under the tap to drain it. So we were thinking of copying that same concept. It would regulate it self. the water flows in and goes out the hole at a constant rate. So drill a hole about 6-8 inchs from the top, make a drain, and a elbow pvc pipe in the hole then a straight pipe into the sump ect. I would just have to but a screen over the the hole so fish would not go in it any thoughts on our idea? all ideas welcome. Functionally, that is no different than useing a standpipe. The main reason for having a curve in the standpipe is to cut down on the noise of the water falling through the pipe, if you were to drill through the side of the tank I would still suggest useing a bulkhead and curved pipe on the inside of the tank to cut down on the noise. I would be concerned though, about the structural integrity of the tank wall after having a hole drilled through it and still having the same load on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rED O Posted April 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 we were also thinking of having just a pve pipe in the back to be a stand pipe and drain from there. What I dont want to do is section a part of the tank off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Chicklets Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 You could also try this http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=219465 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rED O Posted April 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 thanks, i might look at a few things. I am trying to make this as simple as possible. we were also thinking just a stand pipe in the back of the tank so water drains into in, threw the bottom of the tank right into the sump. same Idea. what about that? sorry, I am new to sumps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parachromis1 Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 are you talking about a drain to the sump? bra id just stick with something simple. less complication equals less problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rED O Posted April 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 are you talking about a drain to the sump? bra id just stick with something simple. less complication equals less problems whats simple? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rED O Posted April 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 (edited) ALSO* how do I calculate the size of plumbing I need for the syphon to regulate The flow? I need to know how I would figure that out, what size piping into and out the sump. It one thing for someone to tell me what i need but how do i figure it out? My sump is 70 gallons and the pump is 2640 gph. Edited April 7, 2009 by rED O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parachromis1 Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Do 2 1" drains and 2 3/4" returns. Remember head height of pump is reduced by a foot for every 90 degree angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgofishn Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 You could also check out Boom's projects, he has a lot of good links there as well. After you get it built, you will realize how simple it is. Good luck with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerz69 Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Remember head height of pump is reduced by a foot for every 90 degree angle. Would 90 degree angles reduce flow to the sump aswell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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