JLake

Agreed especially with 40 percent water changes. Without a conditioner that can deal with chloramine that a lot of hurt you can caue your fish. Not sure if that would make your water cloudy though. Is it cloudy the instant you put new water in? Or does it become cloudy after? It spikes amm u say? What's the nitrite and nitrate like?

waiting on those l46s as well! excited! Any word on any of those tangs we tlked about so long ago?

fishless cycle is fine, test the water first to make sure it has cycled.There is a great thread here somewhere. i use the api test kit. tests the 4 basic variables. ph(high/low), nitrate, nitrite and ammonia. Prolly better kits out there but it has worked fine for me for years.

Pulled the last tangs out of my 180 on sat. Tonight i was pulling out the last few rocks and shells. inside the largest shell that the red fin compressiceps hangs out near is about 30 to 50 free swimming fry. Question, can they eat crushed up nls grow? i add it to water and inserted the water/nls mixture into the shell via syringe. Is this gonna feed em? i couldnt tell if they were eating it or not. can i add the shell back into moms new tank? i doubt it. any advice?

Thanks for your help! I'm planning the move tonight. I'm just worried about my laticep female. She is growing slower and is more sensitive than the male. I don't want to stress her anymore. I may leave her for a week or so and see how the male does. Its the male that has far outgrown the tank anyway.

Dollar store has a bunch you can buy cheap. I have a lot of extra shells if u need em

wow cool pics. Lovin that ray at the end. I wonder what it is?

nice minnows. ive only seen them plain as feeders. That black sure is sharp! very intresting

There are all sorts of comps or compressiceps u could get. Buy them young and they grow very slowly. Bonus for you fairdeal lives in cgy and has some nice black calvus and goldhead comps. There are many diff types of cyps that you could add if you had the right tankmates. Lelupi can be agressive but often just like their own space to breed in and will defend it. Good luck. Look on aquabid.net to build a tang wishlist! Thats my m.o.

Yeah i already pmd scott on this matter. just waiting for him to get back online! haha thanks hustler

My two laticep rays have outgrown there home and are moving into the 180 all by them selves. Whats the best way to move them? I emptied the 180 of fish totally last night. water is still there and i just have the lone fx5 on there now. The tank they are coming from is heavily over filtered. ac110 eheim 2217 and fluval 405. I am planning on moving all these filters to the 180 for the move. I am planning on removing the fx5 for some maintenance and sponge replacement. Then i will add it to the other 3 untill it catches up with fresh bacteria. should I just add 50 gallons of fresh water to the 180? Than add the 55 gallons of water they are in with thte rays and run the 180 about half full? slowly adding water with wcs everyday? any advice would be great, would like to keep these rays healthy and they are long overdue for the move. Plus I am tired of removing 7.5 gallons of water a day from the rays.

Aquagiant has them for sure! I'm sure any tank builder would have them.

To tell you the truth unless you order them or know a breeder, big als here in edmonton usually have the best selection of shell dwellers around. Not sure if that translates to cgy big al though

Welcome aboard!

looking forward to seeing your tang tank progression

hahah nice mix, you will fit right in. Welcome

Agree with Jay, the julies would bother the multies as would the lelupi possibly. If the altolamps want the multies shell or all the shells than its not looking good for the multies. Try a lil more aggressive shellie, or one thats larger maybe hecqui. If your shellies are adults and all your other fish are juvies you would be okay for a while...

Yeah i just read the first page, hahah didnt realize there was more. Looking forward to your finished tank.

Great looking lil setup! very cool. Inspiring!

Ill put some pics up soon. The gar isnt making the transfer to the 180 just yet. I wanna keep him in the four footer.

cool pics!

Yeah the gar will be fine for a while. The larger the tank with gars the worse off u can be. With a lot of room to do "quick starts" which often leads to busted spines and snouts. The leading caue of injusry and death to gars.

Hahahaha not as fat as your pigs! Getting bigger now that its off tyhe bloodworms. eats a whole prawn every day. half in the am and half at night. Also i cut a small peice of worm for it when i feed the rays.

Any pics of it running?

welcome to the site!