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Actually I like that idea...even though I should be biased to plecos being a pleco person-lol-but as they require a meatier diet and graze plants and decor for food may be an option to try definitely-plus they are a nice fish. Several diff. varieties, relativeky easy to acer for from what I know of- true with the breeding, I have no experience personally but know a few fish friends who have and they enjoy them a lot. To add to this idea I wonder if if you have thought about a combo of maybe a pleco group or one pleco-algae diff types, brown, green, some extra food debry,etc. depending on the pleco and a small cory shoal-to clean up food debry? I have a friend who has Bn's with cories and some tetras and has tank with one Rhino with cories also and some other fish not sure what: both are the most immacualte tanks and have live plants- sparkling! No algae, stable water parameters, has softer water than I do but has to do far less water changes than I do, and his tanks are smaller with a bigger bio load than mine-interesting!

This is true. Not too much protein, but nonetheless will need some,they can be a little bit more diff. to keep than say the Bn or the Rhino. I keep mine with Bn's and they all love the veggies- but my Panaques need some brine shrimp/little bits of freezedried blood worm. About once a once every two weeks but they also spawn- so that might the reason for the need for extra protein- I love my little clowns but they do not do so much house cleaning definitely not as much as the Bn's or the Rhino. Good point about the protein though- research about any clean up crew is super important.

I think you're on the right track- cjerrom is right about the Panaques but you may need several a sthey are not so diligent in cleaning. BN's are diligent cleaners- poop a lot if you have a colony which isn't hard as they'll reproduce so easily, maybe try albinos-add a different coloring to your tank also people really like those ones-easy to sell especially as adults and longfinned also as suggested. You'l need a few if you want a lot of poop though. My experience for the poopiest pleco is the Pterygoplichthys scrophus or the Rhino/Chocolate pleco, do a much better job at cleaning than panaques about even with the Bn's if you have a colony and poop like crazy(definelty the King's of poop) but they spend all night basically buffing your tank clean-they can grow big, but if you get a male not so large(maybe 8 inches max). With all these you'll need wood, with Bn's you'll need to feed them veggies almost every other day and with Panaquaes supplement with veggies and a meaty diet- blood worms/sometimes brine shrimp also. With the Rhino- no supplement required will eat any waste food not specific on what they're fed.

Will try to post some pics- have had troubles in the past with posting my pics-they are doing really well so far no dentistry required yet -but probably soon are growing faster now.And yes they are so much fun and interesting nice to know there are other Puffer peeps out there! They are my fav fish- every morning I have their tank in the kitchen, crazy I know, but anyways, they come up and swim and interact with my boys in the morning, even my toddler during breakfast before they go to school its truly quite something- they are like dogs or cats in a way- much more social than my other obsession the plecos-lol. Even more social than cichlids! I am so happy with them!!! Thanks everyone!!!

Looking for adult female L180. F1 Please Thank you.

Yes they are South American Puffers. They are quite the characters, I am glad to see they are getting better, it was sad for me when they were sick, even though it was to be expected, or they warned me at the LFS, but still seeing sick fish and having sick fish can be worrisome.Thank you SuperGuppyGirl I appreciate this and will definitely make it out to Devon just to even meet you and your tanks would be great, snails or no snails. My hubby bought me a couple plants today and they came loaded with snails so popped as many as I could into the the snail breeders, hopefully they'll start getting romantic!

So I recently got some SAPs for my 90 Gallon, they are really quite the characters. After about a year or so of research as they require a lot of special care,I plunged. Got them home and they broke out with yup-ICK, was expected, but have had a really long road in recovering them. I can finally say today I see no cysts- but the LFS said maybe over 6 weeks or longer of a continued battle with the disease. Anyways they are eating well- foraging for snails and finally fattening up-I have two small 5G tanks set-up with snails/breeding them and am finding they are eating more than what can reproduce. Also feeding them Mysis. Any suggestions on what I can do to sustain there huge appetite now that they are getting healthier? In the past I coundn't clean the tank enough and get rid of snails now am finding I am needing more than what I can produce. Any thoughts, very much appreciated.

I would also suggest a colony of Ottocinclus of 4 or more, they do a great job on plants-very delicate also stay soooo small, are not agressive at all- I would suggest finding a reputable breeder or follow the suggestions above- female BN's are not funny faced and fantastic at cleaning!!!

I have Ancistrus Cirrhosis breeding trios x3 Albinos, regular and marbles. Mnay baies, juvi's an exact number could not say.1 Rhino pleco, 1 L181 male, 2 little Clown plecos and 1 Ottocinclus -who is about three years old!!!

UPDATE edmonton at B*g A*s they have long-finned albino juvis and L182(the famous Starlight pleco)-these guys get quite a bit larger than the common ancistrus but in my opinion all ancistrus and ottocinclus affinis are the BEST at eating algae. Other Plecos-the more fancy L#s are good while young then require a more meaty diet as well as the common alge eaters. Hope this helps

No problem, glad to hear she will be happy and have a very Big home! Fantastic, thanks!

Thank you to SuperGuppyGirl and Skygrl for the info- not overly sure exactly how many years in total- but for some time now we have taken in rescues, here in Alberta now and before were I lived my husband and I did the same and many of the fish we keep are rescues, for some reason we attract unwanted fish, have not really had too much of a problem with housing them before as they were smaller and just unwanted- but this last rescue was quite a big one and I can almost be sure in saying everyone has a home and we rescued them on Thursday-so I am so grateful to the people who have opened their homes and hearts out to these beautiful exotic fish and huge thank you to A.A- for having people concerned for the well-being of these ancient animals. "Please do not flush or release into our environment any unwanted fish- there is always another solution!!!!"

Thank you for the responses, they are very much appreciated. Funny thing, just got back from the LFS I dropped off a sailfin plecostomus and an I.D. Shark, and the manger when I called was so sure when I called that they were worthless, or so he said, I opened the container and they sold, even before I got them out of my container into theirs, and man who didn't get one of the fish-walked away saying you shouldn't have just given them away-I would have bought the Id shark from you-I have a 500G tank! The sailfin they said he'd be sold before the weekend! But he sold on the spot! I feel like such a fool!- you know we are in no way well-off or anything like that- we just saw a situation-and knew we had to do something- never wanting to make any kind of profit- the only thing we wanted in return was a cucumber or zucchini for our fish in our little tanks and now I feel like we were just plain stupid to even think people would be honest and care enough-just to help us out in return for a pretty penny they are going to make. I'm sorry- to rant.

Hello anyone out there!- wondering if I have broken a rule -if I have am REALLY sorry. Or if my topic is just not interesting to any one. Am going take two of the other rescues to their new homes in a little while just getting them ready. If anyone has any ideas or comments-I would appreciate it-rude, mean, cruel-don't really care- maybe some helpful ones too- feel free to speak your mind. Thanks.