catshanon Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Hi there people, I really want to grow HC cuba in my tank and at the same time I don't want to invest in ready made lighting. I am planning to buy some T5HO lights and make reflectors for them. As I recently found out, reflectors play a major major part in the amount of light that is going down into the tank. After searching some forums, I found out about ahsupply.com . People have good reviews about their reflectors and they use mirror polished aluminium sheets for their reflectors. Specifically, they use MIRO-IV aluminium sheets. There is a distributor in Ontario that sells these sheets (anomet) . A silver finished sheet (0.020" x 48" x 24") with 98% reflectivity will cost $55 and $42 to ship to Alberta. I was wondering if any other members are interested in building their own reflectors. Built properly, reflectors can increase the amount of light going into the tanks many many times. proper reflector design. If anyone has worked with aluminium sheets before, please let me know how difficult it is to cut them (0.020" thick) and what tools I would require to cut and shape them. Thanks in advance, Raj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewels Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 (0.020" thick) and what tools I would require to cut and shape them. Thats a half millimetre - a good pair of scissors would almost do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
African_Fever Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Doesn't FLAT white paint have a high reflectivity, somewhere over 90% if I remember correctly from a couple of years ago when I was doing my DIY canopy. $10 for a can of paint versus $100 for a reflector wasn't worth it to me at the time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvision Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Kyle's right. For the money, flat white paint is the best reflector for the DIYer - I learned this years ago from guys using light meters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catshanon Posted January 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 Doesn't FLAT white paint have a high reflectivity, somewhere over 90% if I remember correctly from a couple of years ago when I was doing my DIY canopy. $10 for a can of paint versus $100 for a reflector wasn't worth it to me at the time... White paint does have high reflectivity values, but I just found out that there are 2 kinds of reflection.. diffuse reflection and specular reflection. Diffuse reflection will make the incident light (light falling on the material) go in a completely different angle, whereas specular reflection will bounce of the material at a same angle as the angle in which the light came in. Hence the need for well made designs for the reflectors built of specular material. Here is a good link to show that: specular reflection Here is a discussion about white paint and mylar and other materials. I have cut and pasted from the source and the link to the source is at the bottom. The total reflectivity of a good white paint nearly equals that of silver, and is certainly better than any aluminized surface (mylar, foil or sheet metal). The difference between a diffuse (flat white or brushed metal) reflector and a specular (polished metal or mirror) reflector is the direction of the reflected light. Over water, that just might have some effect, for light nearly parallel to the water surface is reflected away, while 96% or so of that incident nearly directly on the water does penetrate and go on into the water. Diffuse reflection scatters in all directions, so some of the light must go back toward the tube or off at a shallow angle. Really efficient specular designs (The McDonald's Golden Arches cross section, for example) could, in theory, direct more of the light in proper directions to go into the water better. Be sure and re-polish them weekly, though. :-) White paint has the huge advantage that the *shape* of the reflector is totally non-critical, where shiny reflectors need careful shape-control for any real efficiency advantage. discussion about white paint vs other materials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
African_Fever Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 From reading the above cut-and-paste, I get the impression that for the regular DIY'er flat white paint is the way to go, because if your reflector isn't designed EXACTLY correctly (and maintained/cleaned regularly) you won't get the full benefit of going that route. Due to the diffuse nature of flat white paint, you can basically make a box to hold your lights and fit over your tank without worrying about the angles of the reflectors and how difficult that can be to get perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvision Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 If you don't want to lose light w. flat white paint, you could build a complete canopy (box w. lid). More light would be directed back into the tank eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outacontrol Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 You can buy T5HO strip lights for reflectors already made from most lighting wholesalers. We have been using them for a few years already in large buildings instead of metal halide highbay lighting. Much easier and probably cheaper way to go, than building your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catshanon Posted January 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 I gave it some thought and building the reflectors exactly is out of the question. The Tek reflectors had 10 angles in it while the newer TekII has 29 angles. Without a metal press, this will be impossible to achieve. So, I will order a retrofit kit from JLAquatics. They have a Sunlight supply T5HO kit for $132... Which brings me to my next question...Where can I get T5 moisture proof endcaps and mounts in Edmonton. Will Home Depot or Litemore carry them. I am just putting together a list of the materials that are in the kit to see if I can get them cheaply. Then I can just order the reflectors and bulbs from JLAquatics and save some cash. Thanks in advance, Raj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvision Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 A little dab of silicone beneith the tombstones should do the trick. As for waterproof endcaps, I did a quick search and MOPS (Mail Order Pet Supply) carries them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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