FishBrain Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 what is the difference and how do you tell which is which Aulonocara baenschi Aulonocara maleri Both say they are sunshine Peacocks But pictures look different or same depending on where you look :ml: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
African_Fever Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Aulonocara baenschi is species of it's own, and it's type locality is Nkhomo Reef. Aulonocara sp. 'stuartgranti maleri' is essentially a yellow stuartgranti type, most often exported (at least by Stuart) from Maleri Island. They do look very similar, but the baenschi has a curved snout, whereas the Maleri has a straight snout. If you have Malawi Cichlids in their natural habitat (3rd edition), both fish are pictured on the same page, and you can easily see the difference in the snouts. I'd suspect that these are highly hybridized due to their similarity. Someone not knowing what they have, attempting an ID, finding a pic of a yellow peacock, figuring that's what they have, and then buying more for the group is easy enough to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishBrain Posted March 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 OK then from what Andrea (chums) said they look like Aulonocara baenschi and from what I have seen online i have to agree thank you :bow: :ml: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOSStile Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 (edited) I know Canadbis (hi Mathew ) and we were discussing this very topic. I bought these from the breeders auction and was told they were Aulonocara baenschi. I would like your opinion, African Fever,and I know the picture is bad. Thanks in advance. Also I heard it can be a long time (2 years ) before the males color changes? Is this true? I look forward to your presentation at the CAS meeting. Regards Harold Edited March 22, 2005 by HOSStile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunl Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 (edited) A side profile shot would really help, if possible... Edited March 22, 2005 by dunl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOSStile Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 I will try to get one. every time I use the flash it is terrible and without the flash exposure time is terribly long. (blurs) Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunl Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Not sure how much experience you have with the camera (probably more than me, or at least I hope you do ) but make sure using flash that you shoot at an angle to keep the reflection off.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
African_Fever Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Harold, It's not so much my opinion as Ad's exact words from his book for the differences between the two yellow peacocks. I'll have it with me tonight if you're interested in looking at it yourself. As far as ID's goes, I use the 3rd edition as backup for everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyasa Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Looks like Aulonocara stuartgranti Maleri Island to me. They tend to have a much deeper body than the baenschi as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 I don't think it is Baeschi or Maleri..I may be wrong because I don't have my book with me at moment, but I don't remember either having black along the dorsal as it appears in the photo above Take care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOSStile Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Here is another shot of the male. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOSStile Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 and a shot of male and female Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
African_Fever Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 (edited) How large are they? Most of the yellow peacocks that I've seen have FULL colour by the time they're 3" (often at 2"), and those don't appear to have any yellow to me. I also have to agree with apollo, the pics that I've got of both baenshi's and maleri's don't have any black in the dorsal like yours does. Edited March 23, 2005 by African_Fever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOSStile Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 the male is over 4 inches and the female about 2.5 inches. I bought them at the breeders auction last October. Mind you ,the guy that sold them wrote 1m 2f on the bag and it turned out that 2 were male. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
African_Fever Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 I have no idea what they are then. At 4" the male should be showing full colour, and in your pics he doesn't look to have too much more colour than a female. That's too bad. Peacocks are a very difficult fish to buy anywhere. They hybridize amongst the variants/species so easily, that's it's often impossible to tell exactly what you have. It's too bad, b/c there are a lot of people who get into African's with peacocks (I know I did), and then sell the 'unknown' fry as blue peacocks, leaving the next person trying to ID them as well. Personally, I'd never buy any peacocks that weren't coloured without seeing the parents first unless I was buying them from a dependable source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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