Charley Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Hi, I'm considering setting up a 30 gallon planted tank with kuhli loaches and harlequin rasboras and I'm wondering if a mixture of Flourite Dark Sand and 3 mm pea gravel would be a suitable substrate. The gravel should be smooth enough for the loaches, and I think the Flourite will be good for the plants. Would Flourite be the best additive for the plants or is there something that would work better for the plants (and/or the loaches)? I've also considered a mixture of eco-complete and the pea gravel. Thanks, Lindsay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvianAquatics Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Well, I don't really know but I just use it cause it brings out the color in my shrimps. It's best to use only 2 kinds of gravel that compliment each other. Usually when you vacuum the gravels the stuff you put at the very bottom can surface and it can be a pain if it looks messy/bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewels Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 a planted tank with kuhli loaches What could be better than that !? I have never puchased any of the products you mentioned - but do regard , , , I will agree will avianaquatics. Any time you mix substrates of dissimilar shape - the fatter will rise to the top That is to say; any time you mix sand with pebbles the sand eventualy disappears and the pebbles protrude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charley Posted September 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 I was thinking that if I use the flourite sand instead of the gravel, it will settle to the bottom (and I might even start out by layering the two different materials), so the plants will still get the benefit of the flourite, and the loaches will have the smooth gravel. If the sand gets stirred up, it will eventually settle again, so that should help keep the tank looking neat. I should also note that I was planning a low-medium light tank with no CO2, fertilizing as necessary for the plants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvianAquatics Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 If it's a low light tank with no CO2 it really doesn't matter what kind of substrate you use since you are depriving it of the most 2 important things it needs to survive. Just use whatever you think it'll look nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleshgear Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 i mixed florite black sand with some gravel once, i did not like the way it looked, it was hard to clean. the plants grew fine in it, but i would not do it again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren88 Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 the sand should be enough sand works well at holding in nutrients and such Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvision Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 I've been using Play Sand in planted tanks for years, and Khuli loaches LOVE Play Sand! But, if you want something darker, go for the Flourite Sand, or something similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BettaFishMommy Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 (nods head in agreement with what jvision said) play sand is great for planted tanks. that's what i have in my lil 2.5 gal and it's a dang jungle in there! lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishclubgirl Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 All of my tanks are a mix of flourite, play sand and gravel though not a pea size gravel. Am quite pleased with the results even in the very low light tank that has wild bettas and lots of different anubias and crypts. In the fishclubgirl's plants for dummies, there's 4 components to plants, substrate, light, fert and water chemistry. Meet the requirements of that plant in a plant friendly tank and success!!! Loaches will love having the hiding places!! Please keep in mind, this is the opinion of someone who's very much not an expert!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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