hustler Posted September 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 LOL redO...... Dont think i havent noticed it up for sale ...... I almost hit you up a few times now lol..... Im just trying to get all the kinks worked out and figure out a battle plan for stock. If i can move some of my silvers ill take it for sure, Im trying to get some rays in there too but im trying not to overstock it..... keep the numbers where they are at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rED O Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 LOL redO...... Dont think i havent noticed it up for sale ...... I almost hit you up a few times now lol..... Im just trying to get all the kinks worked out and figure out a battle plan for stock. If i can move some of my silvers ill take it for sure, Im trying to get some rays in there too but im trying not to overstock it..... keep the numbers where they are at Ill give you a good deal. Id try and sell a silver and get a black -roll- I really love mine, I would keep him, but I am selling my tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFISHGUY Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 I agree with what Evo is saying. The bio balls would be more effective if you put them in the top section. What you could do with the space underneath is a moving bed filter section. http://www.canadiankoiandpond.ca/EA/K1.html Also it would be more effective to put your ceramic media and lava rock into a taller narrower section to prevent blow by. This is what I am going to do with mine. Your set-up does work but it could be improved. Mine isn't the best either. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFISHGUY Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 I just ordered some K1 media and will have some left over if you are interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hustler Posted September 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Wow, Thats really cool. Ill have to take a look at this again, I didnt want to put the bio balls first due to dirt and crap not being filtered before them. and there is alot more bio balls then room in any other compartment. Rd i may be interested for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFISHGUY Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Wow, Thats really cool. Ill have to take a look at this again, I didnt want to put the bio balls first due to dirt and crap not being filtered before them. and there is alot more bio balls then room in any other compartment. Rd i may be interested for sure Put your filter pad/wool, whatever you want to call it, on top of the bio-balls. That is where mine goes. You just have to change it every 3-4 days to keep it flowing properly. Its highly effective at getting out the big stuff but it clogs up in a matter of days. You can rinse and re-use or just chuck it out like I do and add a new piece. I buy the roll from Big Al's but perhaps you can get it from a sponsor on the forum. I ordered 65 litres of the kaldnes bio media. Should be here in a week or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hustler Posted September 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Thats where i have it now, 5 or 6 pads at the top then the bio balls right under with a bubbler in the bottom of the bio balls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hustler Posted September 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Im trying to think of a way to get the bio balls out of water but really there isnt any room, Ill try making walls of the ceramic rings that makes sense, Also i have the return line from the pump blowing above them so there is tonnes of current and areration there as well. Thanks for the help guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFISHGUY Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Thats where i have it now, 5 or 6 pads at the top then the bio balls right under with a bubbler in the bottom of the bio balls What mean is you put a tray above bio balls for filter floss. Next is your bio-ball chamber(above water). Then your kaldnes or jap mat or sponge or whatever media you want submerged. Your bio balls should fit where all your sponges are. You may have to put them together like lego to get them all to fit but it should work. The second section will depend on what you use in the bottom of the first section. If you use foam or jap mat then leave this section empty. If you choose to go with the Kaldnes then this is where some foam should go. The 3rd section is where your wall of ceramic media/lava rock which should extend above the water line to avoid blow by. That's it. Im trying to think of a way to get the bio balls out of water but really there isnt any room, Ill try making walls of the ceramic rings that makes sense, Also i have the return line from the pump blowing above them so there is tonnes of current and areration there as well. Thanks for the help guys Sounds good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hustler Posted September 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 (edited) So.... I have 4 inches to the frame of my sump that has no water lol...... I dont see a way around submerging everything..... Ive googled this to death and i dont know where else to go...... The bio balls have to be submerged..... I have a 5" air disc under them now..... but if that isnt enought what other options would i have? I figured with a 1.5HP pump there would be enough oxygen for them to thrive and with the bubbler it would make it close to a trickle setup.... If not then im screwed lol..... there is no way to bring down the water level at all..... And i need that first compartment for the quick clean sponges..... Edited September 25, 2010 by hustler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFISHGUY Posted September 25, 2010 Report Share Posted September 25, 2010 Even if 2/3 are above the water and the rest submerged its better imo. The way you have it is OK. I was just trying to think of ways to make it more efficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cade Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Having never kept these type of fish is this tank the size one would need for the long term. Love the look of it and I am trying to get a little info on these great fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFISHGUY Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Minimum size 6X2X2 for asian aros. Silvers could use a little wider but the bigger the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hustler Posted October 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 Jam packed the sump with another 10 gallons of ceramics.... Tons of pads ect ect..... still half empty lol Thanks RDfishguy for the help added a little crossback to the mix too very happy how this tank is coming along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFISHGUY Posted October 6, 2010 Report Share Posted October 6, 2010 You will want to modify it again. Trust me. Especially after you see one work with the proper flow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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