Fishful Thinking Posted December 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2007 Jonah, I thought you would be pleased with the SA direction of this tank! What is the ballpark cost on an EBJD? Also, would angels get along with the larger fish that I am looking at stocking this tank with? (eg. Nics, Sevs, Chocs, GTs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Chicklets Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 They do fine with severum, but I'm not sure about the others. I would be more concerned with keeping apistos with the big guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishful Thinking Posted December 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Thanks, Nick. The apistos will be moved and/or sold once the bigger fish grow up a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted December 22, 2007 Report Share Posted December 22, 2007 Greg, I have had varying luck with EBJDs. My first was the biggest of my growouts when I changed over a 90 gallon tank. He grew up without being threatened by larger fish and he grew up with great colors and very beautiful. He was also a very mellow ruler of the tank - for an CA fish. He did not even snack on his smaller friends. I had a filter meltdown and that was the end of that fish community. I started again with some severums, a large fancy pleco and some larger dithers. I added another small EBJD after the tank had stabilized. The EBJD grew fine with the severum (who were much larger) but was very dark (mostly black) and I was very disappointed. I moved the EBJD at 3-4 inches into a planted tank where he was the only cichild and the other residents were 12 rummy nose a school of otos and some bristlenose. Within hours he lit up and he is now as brilliant as my other one was at this size. Being the king of the tank suits these fish. Unfortunately where my other fish was placid, the 12 rummynose made for the 12 days of Christmas for the EBJD. He is now working his way throught the oto cats. On another note, I am not a fan of severums. I thought they would be a similar fish to discus (which I loved keeping), but they are not the gentle giants that you read about. Mine are ornery, shred plants, need alot of space and aren't very charming (you know what I mean). Regarding your other comments: You can get an EBJD for about $40 on Riverfronts 2 for 1 or if you talk nicely to the fish store keeper. Watch their eyes and their shape as they are highly inbred and the eyes have given others problems in the past. Regarding SAs - I recommend either keeping many singles or larger groups (4+ so they can aggravate each other). Or focussing on one large pair and throwing in some supplementary fish (plecs, dithers ect.) I don't think Pimpdocta idea was without merit as if you throw in potential pairs of several different CA/SA species in together, it will result in havoc and likely dead fish when one set decides to pair up. Even small HRPs can make life hard on everyone in a 90 when they breed. So a show pair of "tank busters" may be really neat. Remember that the lower the stocking in an SA tank, you will get better growth. Angels are nice, but they can be ornery too. Your other stocking choices may not fit the swimming pattern/flow of angels. Chocolate cichlids fit better into that space IMO. But I think your could choose anyone of chocolates/severums/angels to fill that part of your picture. These are my thoughts, not yours... Immmmm Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rED O Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 (edited) you should get 2 oscars and a jack dempsey :thumbs: or a dicus tank or african tank Edited January 11, 2008 by rED O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvision Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 I have been very happy with my wild caught angels from Spencer Jack (hint, hint). Being WC, they've got a bit more grit than most domestics that I've seen. Right now they're holding their own quite well with a 4.5" oscar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rED O Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 I have been very happy with my wild caught angels from Spencer Jack (hint, hint). Being WC, they've got a bit more grit than most domestics that I've seen. Right now they're holding their own quite well with a 4.5" oscar. i have heard that it has been done but like discuss angles to not go well with oscars, angles are slower moving less agressive fish and when your oscar hits sexual maturity and gets a attitude i dont think your angles will last long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishful Thinking Posted January 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Thanks to all of the replies and discussion. The direction I am moving in right now for this tank is: 1 synspilum 1 turquoise severum 1 nicaragua 1 chocolate 1-2 geo. iporigensis 1-2 BN tinfoils/other barbs/tetras as dithers (my wife is in love with tinfoils!) I'll keep you posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frying_high Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Sounds like it will be cool, please post pic's when you get it all set up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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