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Great! Thanks for the info T-man. Even better to hear there local!

Was just checking out there webpage and they dont have a location of where there based out of...not much info at all available about this Monster Fish Bowl place.....? By the looks of the rays you got from them they seem good to deal with for quality of there stuff but how is one to get a hold of them or find more info and testimonials?? Thanks

Very spectacular looking Rays! Congrats on your new pick ups! What did you end up with Males Females or one of each??

I have used play sand for years with no problems ever. I usually just give it a good rinse and all is fine. I have kept planted tanks as well with no issues. Also as for the thickness of the sand bed I dont see it being that big of a deal either as I have had sand bed from a half in all the way to 3-4" even and still no problems. One of my current aquarium setup has approx 3" of a sand bed and has been going about 3 years with no problems.

Most of the time if they loose them they will pick them up again whether they eat them or not depends on if she feels here eggs are threatened and she will just eat them due to her feeling its the best for them........ This is where a Egg Tumbler come in great use lol Hint Hint.......Just saying..... Good luck!

Hey I have been keeping Fronts of and on for years now. Great fish to work with! I currently have 16 burundi frontosa currently but all still young about it the 2" range also. Held all them back from a few breeders I had in the past and hope to grow this group up and maybe get back to breeding them again in the future. Currently feeding them NLS. I have tried to introduce a few different fish with them but never worked out lol they all just seemed to bombard the new added fish and nip at them like crazy so just left them as a group of fronts and like it this way. I used to keep a very large collection on African Cichlids in the past but with the busy life I have now I chose to keep the fronts. They are nice to just sit back and watch after a stressful day lol. Currently they are in a 90gal but soon to be upgraded.

Yes once I move forward with the build I will be sure to post some pics! Currently I am just making the plans up for a customer of ours for another use but it has me inspired a bit to build them for myself for some rays lol! Breeding would come later hopefully. Im used to keeping them in aquariums but have been thinking a lot about them doing better in large ponds with more room!

I was thinking that the shallow 12" water level would help to induce breeding activity as with the research I have done in most rays they at times will breed in shallower waters as in most rays there breeding/courting insists with a splashing behavior at times. The ponds im considering building would be around the 12"H x 3' x 8' for adults and grow out ponds approx 12" x 3' x 4' Not totally set in stone yet but looks this will be the way i go. I do agree that the 24" tall can be what some prefer but for the amount of time they really use the depth of water is very minimal I find as usually they will only use the depth for swimming to the surface in reach of getting food before others or to act out breeding behavior (splashing)

So with what I can find online in regards to water depth I have found that others are stating that a minimum of 12" is fine for them. Correct me if any others might have any further info in regards to this info. Most info im finding states that they mostly only require the length and width. Makes sense but I would like to hear others suggestions. Thanks!

Hey everyone just wondering if any of you stingray keepers could help me out here with the minimum water depth that a freshwater stingray (motoro or leo) would be best kept in. I have been considering building a few grow out ray ponds as well as adult ray ponds and am wondering how shallow would be too shallow for them ans both pups and as well for adults? I know that rays do like to swim up and down the glass of normal aquariums but wondering is it really that necessary for them and would they be perfectly comfortable in a shallow pond environment with more length and width rather then height also?

Just wondering if anyone one here has found a place in calgary that sells a good selection of bulkhead fittings? Thanks for any info!

Usually when they come in that small the hard part is getting them to eat well. Usually you will see quite a few of them die off and only 5% of them will survive but be very hard to get them eating. I would sugest before buying be sure they are eating in front of your own eyes and have good meat to the body.

Sorry for your loss I have had losses of fish that hit me pretty hard and I feel for you. Rays being one of them and it pulled me away from fish keeping for some time.

If I remeber correctly im pretty sure you started a great thread on a step by step on how you built some. With pics....

Hey welcome back!! Funny thing is I have been gone for about 2 years as well and just came back to AA as well. Look at that 2 of us back in less then a week! I think the fish fever is traviling around fast lol. Congrats on the new baby boy!! :thumbs:

Ya I would say take the money that you would to replace the glass and get a start on purchasing the plywood to start building a few bigger plywood tanks!!!

Lol and we all thought Ducttape was the way to go now we find out LEGO is just as usefull for things lol I love that!! :thumbs:

Welcome to AA! Im sure there are people here that will help you wuth you questions. Theres also a fourm thats based on mosly just saltwater http://www.canreef.com check it out. But dont leave us lol We freshwater buffs know saltwater too. Well some of us..... Welcome :thumbs:

Just wondering is B & I aquariums (mitch) ? Because I have seen adds for thses guy that build aquariums in Calgary..

I have done a few planted tanks and noticed that when I used florite yes it was very messy at first. I also used playsand. I didnt fint it to be much different then eachother just make sure you get reall clean sand bfore putting it in your tank or it will look like chocolate milk lol. Between the 2 different substraits I used I only ever noticed a differance when I added co2. With newer plants added at the begining stages the co2 helped the flourish alot and fast! But once they took off I turned the c02 off and the grew healthy without it after the tank was mature. So I didnt think the substrait mattered at all it was the c02 that made the differance. With low light plants though they dont reall require much at all so if co2 is added is great but still not a must.

lol wow this was interesting to read.....I never thought I would ever hear someone dislikeing Harold. Ya probably someone that has no idea what the fish hobby is all about when it come to good looking healthy fish. In the past harold was a great insperation to me. I purchased fish from him as well has he did from me. He's a great guy thats always willing to give a Fairdeal I would have to say. I have been away from the hobby for a few years now but whenever I thought about the hobby I ALWAYS rememberd Harold and the great fish he has had how he loved doing what he does so much! Now that im back into the hobby again I most deffinitly look forward to stocking back up on some more great deals from Fairdeal.

Now thats a fish room lol Good work! I really like the discus tank set up. Do you have a thread on how you did all this

I would say go with Arowanas or some rays or both. You have so many options so do some research on what would most intrest you. Just keep im mind that having a larg tank you have tons of room for a large selection of small fish such as cichlids or small comunity fish. The larger fish you go with the less options you have of what or how much you can put into the tank. Good luck deciding and keep us posted to what you decide and get some pics up too I love pics of others setups!

Africans are most definitely not the fish too keep with them as you know now most dont get large enough for them not to be eaten. Although I have seen people with nice large groups of frontosas with there silvers and they do great! You just need to make sure the fish you get to go with them wont fit in there mouth and keep your arrows well feed.

You should have no worries then with a 8' tank. Considering that silvers only sometimes hit 4' in length. The 2' for turn around is a bit tight for the arowana to turn in but thats if it gets to be 4' of course. if it does then it would be happier with a 3' width. But as for now a great tank!